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October 1, 2021 at 5:06 pm #5457Katherine KehrliKeymaster
Hazel – these are great questions. I created a second video for managing the mix in a KitchenAid just a couple days ago and it removes the “creep” and still allows you to get to four loaves. Check it out. Be Kind To Your Machine
Also, you are correct, no oil is needed for the bulk fermentation stage. Thank you!
October 1, 2021 at 5:06 pm #5456Katherine KehrliKeymasterHazel – these are great questions. I created a second video for managing the mix in a KitchenAid just a couple days ago and it removes the “creep” and still allows you to get to four loaves. Check it out. Be Kind To Your Machine
Also, you are correct, no oil is needed for the bulk fermentation stage. Thank you!
October 1, 2021 at 4:41 pm #5448Hazel JudelmanParticipantI did 2 loaves today with the new modern formula and a stand mixer.
They turned out well, but I think I concluded that preparing 4 loaves by hand (the old way) is more efficient. I spent lots of time dealing with dough hook creep and waiting for the mixer to cool because it gets warm after several minutes and hand slap and fold is good exercise.
One question, is it not necessary to oil the bowl for bulk fermentation, as were on the previous instructions?
Hazel
September 30, 2021 at 9:09 pm #5425Katherine KehrliKeymasterThanks Christopher!
It’s a labor of love! There is no levain in the formula because it is the Modern, commercial yeast version. But tomorrow, by EOD, the new Classic formula will be posted.
Katherine
September 30, 2021 at 9:04 pm #5424Christopher JamesParticipantKudos to the new formula. I baked today. Perfect results. No cracking of the crust. Nice lift and great color.
The Excel sheet mentions yeast, but doesn’t talk about amounts. I didn’t add any since the levain alone would be fine, but that is question going forward. In my boules, which I make using FWSY (Forkish), I do add 2 grams of yeast.
September 27, 2021 at 10:05 am #5329Claire ParkerParticipantThanks, Katherine. I’ll follow your suggestions and watch the Ank mixing video. And then add my experience…
September 27, 2021 at 8:57 am #5327Katherine KehrliKeymasterClaire,
Seems like you followed the instructions to a tee – except, you only mix the oats until they are incorporated fully. Should only take 2-3 minutes with the ANK. Once incorporated evenly, stop mixing. It sounds like you actually achieved something quite rare – over mixing. hee hee.
Please watch the video on mixing with the ANK it should help!
Katherine
September 26, 2021 at 10:10 pm #5324Claire ParkerParticipantBaked 5 loaves today in my Ankarsrum using the new Modern formula. Used the roller, chunked autolyse into the Poolish, added the yeast then salt. Instructons to start at lowest speed then crank up to four really made the difference and I achieved a beautiful window pane in smooth lovely dough. Then I added the cooked oats and it seemed to lose all its tension. I’m not sure how long I let the mixer go but the dough didn’t change. From then on the stickiness was a big challenge. The dough seemed lively and proofed but working with it was difficult, especially in the first dividing and shaping. I had to use quite a bit of flour on the counter. The finished loaves are ok but not very high. I wonder if the struggle with working the dough deflated it too much.
I will make this again this week to complete my donation as well as test the formula again.September 26, 2021 at 11:06 am #5321Katherine KehrliKeymasterClaudia, so impressed with your loaves!
Grateful that the new formula is hitting a high note!
Thank you for your continued dedication to our bread giving mission!
Katherine
September 26, 2021 at 11:06 am #5320Katherine KehrliKeymasterClaudia, so impressed with your loaves!
Grateful that the new formula is hitting a high note!
Thank you for your continued dedication to our bread giving mission!
Katherine
September 26, 2021 at 10:02 am #5315Claudia GroomParticipantI learned to bake bread through community loaves. I’ve donated 7 times, and today I baked the most beautiful loaves to date. I admit that I’m pretty pleased with myself, but mostly I’m in awe of the process of bread making. With practice it’s getting easier, and my loaves are evolving. I tried a couple of new techniques after reading Katherine’s New Modern formula step by step tutorial. Katherine explained that our hands and fingers are sensitive to the feel of the yeast and salt being absorbed, and to the tightness that comes when adding salt. I was curious about this, so I combined my autolyse and poolish in a new way, twisting off chunks of autolyse into the poolish, working in the yeast, then the salt, stretching and folding until I had a consistently dense mass, all evenly combined. Then I combined the oatmeal mix and did maybe 30 minutes of slap and fold until I achieved the windowpane test. Taking more time to combine individual ingredients made me more aware of the changes happening in the dough. I could feel the grains of yeast and salt disappear.
The new loaf shaping technique is a game changer. My loaves are round and smooth on the top. Degassing is genius, and so is rolling the dough from the top down, pressing forward against the surface of the countertop to create strength in the dough where it’s needed most: the top.
I baked my loaves for 48 minutes. 8 minutes more than usual. They’re a nice rich amber brown all over.
4 loaves cooling on my rack, sitting tall. I’ll package them up tomorrow.
I love how they turned out.Claudia- Rainier Beach
September 23, 2021 at 4:12 pm #5283Katherine KehrliKeymasterWooh Hooh – doing the Community Loaves Happy Dance! We’re onward and upward! And might I add, those are beautiful loaves!!!
Katherine
September 23, 2021 at 3:38 pm #5282Kay-Ellen TomlinsonParticipantI made 4 loaves today using the new Modern and they came out really well. I did them the same way I did before, following the whole process to bulk, in two batches then mixing together for the bulk ferment. The loaves came out great. I think this formula and method was actually easier to for my smaller Kitchen Aid to handle. It didn’t seem to heat up as much and really did a good job of mixing in everything. Here is the proof!
September 22, 2021 at 10:37 pm #5281Katherine KehrliKeymasterKathleen,
That is music to my ears! Well done. Looks like you are using the Ank! Nice.
Katherine
September 22, 2021 at 5:10 pm #5275Kathleen FlorioParticipant“Wow!” That was my husband’s reaction when he walked into the kitchen today and saw my first batch of loaves using the New Modern Formula. The formula and the informative videos resulted in loaves that looked noticeably better than my previous attempts–and I’ve been at this for nearly a year!
Thanks for the terrific support for us bakers. Much appreciated!
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